Tiki Bar with Everett Barry | Revenue Leadership, Operating Judgment, and Career Lessons

5 Key Takeaways

• I think like, I had some instinct for kind of what made sense in terms of leading people, but in terms of operationally managing the team, I was super, super green.
• Like I remember my first leadership role, which came later in life and it's still there was just tons of surprises.
• Clay has some of the best leadership folks that I've ever worked with in terms of a deep, deep understanding of organization and how to efficiently get things done and grow, of course, and sort of inspire people.
• it wasn't, I don't think it comes from a place of being a micromanager or anything like that.
• But I think there is something to leadership where if you don't at least occasionally feel what it's like on the front line, you start to lose a little bit of touch and instinct for what you should do and decisions you should make.

Episode Summary

Yeah, I love your career arc because there's this technical aspect, there's a founder aspect and you eventually get into growth, which we'll talk about.

And one of the things that he told the hiring manager at that job was that I was not the best manager.